tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post8672101511580869705..comments2024-03-27T06:07:20.345+01:00Comments on ボクの事件簿: The Scarlet Thread of MurderHo-Linghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04673330638260132388noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-502591304733662732017-10-17T11:26:57.790+02:002017-10-17T11:26:57.790+02:00But I don't think the actual events of the mov...But I don't think the actual events of the movies are treated as canon in the manga, only select elements, and that has basically always been the case. From characters like Inspector Shiratori and lately Inspector Ayanakouji who first appeared in the movies to smaller background stories (like Shinichi and Ran visiting the fountain in Tropical Land) and stuff. Interplay between the manga and movies has also been part of the game for a long time (a story that is thematically related to The Raven Chaser preceded the film for example). But the manga does not explicitly acknowledge big events like Ran suffering from amnesia or the killer VR game and stuff, so I don't think that it's all canon.<br /><br />The fact KID is aware of Conan's identity is also more-or-less canon in the manga, I think. In the Ryoma story from volume 70 Conan even tells KID about his mother...<br /><br />In regards to The Darkest Nightmare (and to some extent Dimensional Sniper), I think synching the movie timeline to the manga is necessary, but of course not always ideal. The Darkest Nightmare should of course only be seen after the Scarlet Return, but I also wouldn't like it if all the movies were to be set in some sort of safe area. I mean, The Crimson Love Letter does that more or less, but I also think there should be a place for more continuity-rooted stories like The Darkest Nightmare.<br /><br />With Momoji, my gripe is that her role in the manga otherwise has been mostly useless. I have read until volume 93, and there was only one story where she was actually needed, and all of her other appearences were just fairly random without any interactions with the other cast members. This is different from for example the direct cause why Ran's parents are living apart, or the link between Amuro and that other character, because these are little extra expositions to characters were already know, while basically nothing of interest has been done with Momiji yet. Her background story doesn't even need to be exlored in the manga, but at least make her more relevant in the cases where she makes an appearance.Ho-Linghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673330638260132388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-25319637995116661572017-10-16T17:40:33.382+02:002017-10-16T17:40:33.382+02:00It seems for me that Aoyama is becoming fradially ...It seems for me that Aoyama is becoming fradially more serious about involving the movies as the canon. I mean, back in the day we used to have weird non-canonical things like 'Kaitou Kid steals gems and never returns' or 'Kaitou knows Conan's identity' in Movie 3, while now we have characters invented by Aoyama, characters introduced in the manga before the movie was even released, and I won't be surprised if the backstory of Amuro will actually be revealed in Movie 22 INSTEAD of manga. I only wish they we not ignoring the paperback/anime-only audience: having _The Darkest Nightmare_ as a cold shower with its heavy spoiler before any inkling of the Scarlet Series is definitely not a good idea. JPRidgewayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03239204379942649749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-85009571146380639412017-10-12T09:16:08.178+02:002017-10-12T09:16:08.178+02:00Thanks for the recommendations! I tackle one of th...Thanks for the recommendations! I tackle one of these movies before finishing Kindaichi after all. I've suddenly become very curious about <i>The Raven Chaser</i> and <i>Lost Ship in the Sky</i>. TomCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03415176301265218101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-72309407138361282602017-10-11T20:55:41.102+02:002017-10-11T20:55:41.102+02:00Jolly Roger would've been disappointing as a T...Jolly Roger would've been disappointing as a TV special, let alone as a theatrical feature, and while it's true none of the others that followed it are really bad, I think you could also easily skip a few of the others unless you really want to watch them.<br /><br />I'd say the best choices for you are 13. The Raven Chaser (features the Black Organization) 14. Lost Ship In The Sky (highly comical movie with KID behaving much more like he is in Magic Kaito), 17. Private Eye In The Distant Sea (more a spy thriller, but interesting as something different) and especially this year's movie, The Crimson Love Letter, as it's the film closest to the earlier films and it also won't spoil vital plot points for you.<br /><br />I enjoyed 18. Dimensional Sniper and 20. The Darkest Nightmare too, but you'll need to read until somewhere in the eighties before watching them because of story and character spoilers.<br /><br />You might wanna look for the first Kindaichi Shounen animated feature too (not sure if it's available subbed). It's an adaptation of one of the novels and depicts the second series of murders that happen in the Opera House from the very first story.Ho-Linghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673330638260132388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-54395343938141852632017-10-11T20:34:46.003+02:002017-10-11T20:34:46.003+02:00You know what, I think I'll return to the Dete...You know what, I think I'll return to the Detective Conan movies the moment I'm done with the Kindaichi series. I don't think any of the movies from the past decade have sank the same depth as the abysmal <i>Jolly Roger in the Deep Azure</i>. TomCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03415176301265218101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-22845591441247998542017-10-11T10:02:06.533+02:002017-10-11T10:02:06.533+02:00I think Aoyama considers the film series as someth...I think Aoyama considers the film series as something like Schrödinger's cat, as while they never refer directly to the events from the films, certain elements and events do influence the manga storyline. So it's a yes and no.<br /><br />I already mentioned how The Fourteenth Target gives the explanation for why Ran's parent's live seperately and how The Crimson Love Letter explains Momiji's background instead of the manga, but for example Inspector Shiratori was also first introduced in the first film, and I'm pretty sure that Aoyama also considers Amuro's friendship with that certain person as revealed in the Darkest Nightmare as true in the manga. I think Aoyama isn't too fuzzy about canon/not canon, but simply accepts the things he likes from the other media adaptatoins.<br /><br />The same holds for the television series, I guess. I mean, Takagi was first named in the anime, only because voice actor Takagi Wataru ad-libbed his own name when his character was asked for a name. And we all know how big a character Takagi has become ever since then.Ho-Linghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673330638260132388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-82914475477526548392017-10-11T09:53:58.759+02:002017-10-11T09:53:58.759+02:00I think Shizuno's previous films were 'wor...I think Shizuno's previous films were 'worse' in that respect: The Darkest Nightmare is obviously really a nightmare to follow if you haven't kept up with who's who, but for example Dimensional Sniper has some complicated character relations at play too that are of importance.<br /><br />The Crimson Love Letter in comparison is fairly simple, as it's focused so much on the triangle between Hattori, Kazuha and Momoji in terms of character focus, with even Conan/Ran being pushed to the background most of the time. Even someone who doesn't know Conan, can understand that the dark guy and the girl like each other but daren't confess to each other and that both are confused by the appearence of new girl. This film might perhaps have even worked perfectly without Ran, the Detective Boys and gasp, Conan himself, as the basic premise is not counting on you to know who's an undercover agent for what organization and whether they're known to be alive or not etc.<br /><br />Episode One was troublesome as it wasn't an original story, it was literally just expanding the first episode/first two chapters with more character studies that had nothing to do with the mystery, while The Crimson Love Letter works because all three main elements (the mystery plot, the sports plot and the rom-com plot) all revolve around the same thing.Ho-Linghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673330638260132388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-33449843507234671172017-10-11T02:28:23.443+02:002017-10-11T02:28:23.443+02:00Do you think this movie is canon ?Do you think this movie is canon ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-7503565393197073372017-10-11T01:18:37.248+02:002017-10-11T01:18:37.248+02:00I really liked this movie but you really have to k...I really liked this movie but you really have to know alot about the DC universe in order to keep up because of how it tangoes with all of the characters at such a high pace... Exactly like the manga. I was REALLY surprised how this movie felt like it was written directly by Gosho, so many character interactions, comedic scenes, serious scenes, and case scenes felt exactly like how Gosho would write it, in fact I'd say it's pretty much identical, somehow even more than Episode One (though that's because the series isn't done in the same format as it was in the first 8-10 volumes).<br /><br />Actually this movie is kind of different from the rest because of that, even from the earlier ones.Anhiksihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00817774165396917723noreply@blogger.com