tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post5514185933518395993..comments2024-03-27T06:07:20.345+01:00Comments on ボクの事件簿: 『誰が女神を殺したか?』Ho-Linghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04673330638260132388noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-59390315521535118282022-10-15T06:39:14.965+02:002022-10-15T06:39:14.965+02:00Personally, I disagree that the motive makes no se...Personally, I disagree that the motive makes no sense. The thing people don't understand about domestic abuse is that the impact very often isn't a result of some single, big, dramatic, cartoonishly evil act. It's a culmination of years upon years of little, medium, and big things that all compound into each other like a snowball rolling down a hill of tar. As someone who experienced awful domestic abuse at the hand of MY adopted family, I found the killer's motive perfectly reasonable and pretty realistic to what abuse is actually like.I. Stump / Heartfeltnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-16305075743556213412019-01-27T15:39:56.508+01:002019-01-27T15:39:56.508+01:00Seems like a pretty big push then from various ang...Seems like a pretty big push then from various angles! It'll be interesting to look back in a few years to see how this will have turned out.Ho-Linghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673330638260132388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-16074877751690274152019-01-27T14:59:30.013+01:002019-01-27T14:59:30.013+01:00There are quite a few reviews appearing right now ...There are quite a few reviews appearing right now before the release of the book, and all of them mention "honkaku" term and explain what it means.<br /><br />Interesting fact. The web version of Russian "Esquire" has an article "20 most anticipated books in 2019". "Tokyo Zodiac" is there, and, while writing about it, author mentions Shimada's introduction in "Decagon House Murders". I wonder if she has read that book too... Maybe even in your translation?<br /><br />I googled a bit and found publisher's Q&A page. Answering the question about their plans for "Honkaku" series, they said that "for now we will be doing Shimada, and then we'ok see". So there are probably more Shimada books in the pipeline!Gasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-78735993673283682152019-01-27T14:27:45.226+01:002019-01-27T14:27:45.226+01:00Ooh, interesting to hear they use the honkaku nome...Ooh, interesting to hear they use the honkaku nomer. Wonder whether Shimada himself has something to do with it, as he's eager to push the term "Honkaku" in the English-language world (so it becomes a word like "samurai", "tsunami" etc.)Ho-Linghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673330638260132388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-68874295308490015092019-01-27T11:07:46.547+01:002019-01-27T11:07:46.547+01:00Hi, Ho-Ling!
I don't comment here often (I wa...Hi, Ho-Ling!<br /><br />I don't comment here often (I was recommending you Fandorin books under your post about Akunin's Leviaphan for example), but there are news which I can't just stay silent about, haha.<br /><br />I have learned recently that Shimada's Tokyo Zodiac Murders soon will be available in Russian for the first time!<br />I have read it a few years ago in English (to my surprise, our library had the book) and never imagined that the day will come when I can just pick it up in the local bookstore.<br /><br />I'm excited to buy it and check the translation. What's interesting, the book is being the first published under the series tag "Honkaku detective", which means that similar works could follow in the future!<br /><br />What a time to be aliveGasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-77278300947006498382018-03-19T09:06:56.935+01:002018-03-19T09:06:56.935+01:00I'll have to admit that usually, motive is of ...I'll have to admit that usually, motive is of so little consequence to me personally in (entertaining) mystery novels it has to be pretty awful/incomprehensible before I raise objections. It is admittedly often more-or-less an afterthought for many of the shin honkaku writers, or they feature murderers to whom common sense doesn't really apply to any more.Ho-Linghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673330638260132388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-42974067441009930182018-03-19T06:46:04.438+01:002018-03-19T06:46:04.438+01:00An excellent read, until the very last chapter. Re...An excellent read, until the very last chapter. Really drives home the 'motive is no consequence' thing, though for a less than positive reason - the orthodoxes' typically poor understanding of human psychology. If you can't give yor murderer a motive that makes sense, just don't piecemeal one at the last minute and tack it to the end of your novel. <br /><br />It actually made me wonder if that dreadful last chapter could be an attempt to partially ingratiate that dominant social school readers and fellow authors. C. Montanarihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16460918113220634900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-51065092601105380082016-12-24T10:18:14.149+01:002016-12-24T10:18:14.149+01:00Pfft, I don't have a list ready, though I can ...Pfft, I don't have a list ready, though I can say that the case based on The Tokyo Zodiac Murders was obviously the outlier, and they never went as far as copying so much from one story. Most other earlier stories just copy one single point from a book, but mix that up with enough of own elements (for example: the first story, in the Opera House, borrows blatantly from The Mystery in the Yellow Room, but one could still say that was a Leroux homage, and it was just one element among others.<br /><br />I think the most 'recent' story that reminded me of another novel was the Prison Gate Cram School one, which borrowed from Nikaidou Reito's Jinroujou no Kyoufu (The Terror of Werewolf Castle), but again, that story featured enough remixed elements to be considered 'a variant', rather obvious plagiarism.Ho-Linghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673330638260132388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-35263630620447529932016-12-23T22:46:17.891+01:002016-12-23T22:46:17.891+01:00Ho-Ling, I'm just wondering. I've read th...Ho-Ling, I'm just wondering. I've read the entirety of the Kindaichi series...you say a lot of the earlier ones borrowed tricks from other books. Just out of curiosity, what other books had their tricks (and therefore solutions) ripped into Kindaichi cases? I only ask because I don't want to start on a classic book, only to find out I already know the trick behind the puzzle.BenFowlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767265385309740539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-47953503401556574342016-02-16T12:31:10.530+01:002016-02-16T12:31:10.530+01:00I have to admit I read few other genres, but myste...I have to admit I read few other genres, but mystery writers love referencing all the people before them and 'challenge' them. It definitely reminds of how things works in the academic world.<br /><br />And glad you like the blog! Ho-Linghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673330638260132388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-36144571589314926822016-02-16T04:01:16.917+01:002016-02-16T04:01:16.917+01:00Thanks for the explanation, I haven't had much...Thanks for the explanation, I haven't had much experience with the genre yet to experience rehashes (aside from this one).<br /><br />So what you're saying is that 1) repackaging comes in varying degrees on a spectrum ranging from placing a fresh spin on the original trick to outright copying the trick, and that 2) the genre operates on an informal "citation" system where inspiration has to be acknowledged (especially if the repackaging lies near the plagiarism end of the spectrum)?<br /><br />When I first read the trick in Kindaichi Shounen, I thought that it was a very clever trick, but I (maybe in retrospect) felt that the way the trick was incorporated into the story and mystery felt really unnatural, so this is a bad case of repackaging on the plagiarism spectrum.<br /><br />On the other hand, there was another Kindaichi Shounen mystery I recall, the Hayami Reika kidnapping, that now I realise is vaguely similar to a trick used in Devotion of Suspect X, except this time Kindaichi Shounen changes up pretty much the entire structure of the trick, what it's used for, and the clues/traces it leaves behind, and is therefore a repackaging closer to the "inspiration" side of the spectrum. Or maybe I read too much into it and the resemblance is too vague to make such a claim.<br /><br />Anyways I would also like to say that I enjoyed your blog very much. It's very helpful for a reader like me who is interested in Japanese mystery fiction but only knew about Keigo Higashino and Tokuya Higashigawa before this. Cheers for a wonderful blog.Minty Freshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-45256305604185583982016-02-15T19:05:58.194+01:002016-02-15T19:05:58.194+01:00I wouldn't say Kindaichi Shounen's team...I wouldn't say Kindaichi Shounen's team's stance is a typical stance shared by mystery writers everywhere, but they have a point, of course. I mean: one can't even guess at how many stories out there 'borrow' from Chesterton's The Invisible Man or The Queer Feet. Idem dito for Christie, Holmes etc. The genre /does/ feature a lot of re-arranging familiar furniture. But in the particular example of the Kindaichi Shounen story, I think most of us will agree it was way too familiar. It borrowed more than just one idea or concept from Shimada's book.<br /><br />What you do see in a lot of mystery fiction is that writers acknowledge they are inspired by this and this writer or work (by name-dropping for example), but try to surpass them with a variation of the same trick/idea. People seldom complain about this, because even if it's based on the same basic idea, it at least contains some originality. Ho-Linghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673330638260132388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-82314201237086849972016-02-15T17:36:21.254+01:002016-02-15T17:36:21.254+01:00Ah, so it was actually quite a big deal, just sett...Ah, so it was actually quite a big deal, just settled out of court.<br /><br />The Kindaichi shounen series served as an entrypoint into locked room mysteries for me, so it's a little disheartening to hear that their tricks were repackaged ones.<br /><br />Do you think the writers and editors' stance on reusing tricks is something that is shared by Japanese mystery writers in general? I'm curious to know if it's generally accepted as inevitable or if most writers are in fact vehemently against it. I mean, it's understandable that some writers might not do it out of considerations of pride, but do they think that it is in fact not just a matter of pride, but actually unethical to do so?Minty Freshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-28969677927225286792016-02-15T12:35:11.306+01:002016-02-15T12:35:11.306+01:00I don't know how big the scandal was at the ti...I don't know how big the scandal was at the time, but it included articles (one in which Shimada threatened) with lawsuits published in a literary magazine, and resulted in the fact that reprints nowadays include a note that the story utilizes a trick from the book. Also, the TV drama episode based on this story is not available on home video now. So yeah, there were consequences and I guess 'something' was done, but I doubt we'll ever hear about the details.<br /><br />The tricks of a lot of early Kindaichi Shounen stories were thought of by Amagi, Kanari and their editors, and were often 'borrowed' from detective novels. Their stance was that in mystery fiction, it was quite normal that older tricks were re-used and re-applied for new stories. But in this particular example, it was obviously not appreciated by Shimada.<br /><br />Regarding publisher: Well, I think the one thing that did help was that both Shimada's book and Kindaichi Shounen are published by Kodansha :PHo-Linghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673330638260132388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-58304438485091815212016-02-15T03:17:42.280+01:002016-02-15T03:17:42.280+01:00I'm interested in finding out more about the K...I'm interested in finding out more about the Kindaichi shounen plagiarism case, because unfortunately for me I read that Kindaichi case before Tokyo Zodiac murders. I can't find any information on this in English, so I would appreciate it very much if you could elaborate. I was hoping to know, for example, was this a big scandal at the time? If this is treated as a case if plagiarism, how did the publisher get away with simply publishing a note of caution rather than removing the work altogether? And did the writer ever get any criticism for doing this with his other stories?Minty Freshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-89941316707483011962014-03-04T06:00:35.491+01:002014-03-04T06:00:35.491+01:00even if i got the story, i wont be able to read Ja...even if i got the story, i wont be able to read Japanese.... but yes, i'd heard " it was indeed similar" too and thus got curious....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-34705016001074257132014-03-02T09:17:29.288+01:002014-03-02T09:17:29.288+01:00I'll keep the title in mind (I see it's al...I'll keep the title in mind (I see it's also available in other collections), though no idea when/if I'll come to it. It won't be any time soon though, sorry!<br /><br />I think I've heard Shimada Souji mention it was indeed similar to his own novel, though I don't know in which context he meant that (trick, or just overall set-up/atmospheree).Ho-Linghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673330638260132388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-56368008637058527002014-03-02T07:50:06.069+01:002014-03-02T07:50:06.069+01:00can you do me a favor?
read 五体の積木(岡戸武平, can be fou...can you do me a favor?<br />read 五体の積木(岡戸武平, can be found in 恐怖ミステリーBEST15)and see if you think the trick does end up to be the same as in this novel?<br /><br />thanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-719931177940074262012-01-30T14:54:41.142+01:002012-01-30T14:54:41.142+01:00Well, it's a deluxe edition with side flaps an...Well, it's a deluxe edition with side flaps and all, but if you don't want to buy it new you can pick up a cheaper, used copy from <a href="http://www.deslegte.com/boek/books-m-p-o-/de-laatste-kans-9789086060283/" rel="nofollow">De Slegte</a>.TomCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03415176301265218101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-81176976032072661852012-01-30T12:19:04.121+01:002012-01-30T12:19:04.121+01:00You know, I've looked up that book several tim...You know, I've looked up that book several times now (though I forget it every time) and my reaction is always "ack, so expensive!". Of course, Dutch books tend to be quite expensive in general until they are sold as Ramsj.Ho-Linghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04673330638260132388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8031063966272508587.post-67411841109446747862012-01-30T08:53:33.357+01:002012-01-30T08:53:33.357+01:00I share in your unabashed admiration for this bloo...I share in your unabashed admiration for this bloody tour-de-force and it should also be acknowledge as a perfect example of a hybrid concoction of the classic, puzzle-oriented mysteries and the more gory contemporary thrillers – which makes this perhaps one of the most impressive debuts from the post-GAD era. <br /><br />Now that you're done reviewing English translated Japanese novels, you might want to take a look at one of our own neo-orthodox writers, M.P.O. Books. I think you will appreciate the multi-layered structure and fair-play approach of <i><a href="http://moonlight-detective.blogspot.com/2011/07/house-in-woods.html" rel="nofollow">De laatste kans</a></i>.TomCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03415176301265218101noreply@blogger.com